Patrick O’Donnell, retired police officer and author, featured guest on Moped Outlaws podcast episode 232

Dig the Well Before You’re Thirsty: Wisdom from the Thin Blue Line

Moped Outlaws — Episode #232

There are certain conversations that don’t rush you. They slow you down. They ask you to sit with complexity instead of trying to solve it.

This episode is one of those.

Patrick O’Donnell is a retired police officer, a writer, and the host of Cops and Writers. He’s also someone who has stood close enough to life-and-death moments to know that certainty is often a luxury—and that wisdom usually arrives after experience, not before it.

Early in our conversation, Patrick shared a simple phrase that became the spine of the episode:

Dig the well before you’re thirsty. ~ Patrick O’Donnell

It’s not a slogan. It’s a survival strategy.

Patrick spent 25 years in law enforcement, much of it on the street, eventually serving as a sergeant responsible for others in volatile, high-pressure situations. He’s investigated officer-involved shootings, navigated public scrutiny, and lived inside the biological reality of fear—tunnel vision, auditory exclusion, adrenaline flooding the body when milliseconds matter.

But what makes this conversation resonate isn’t the intensity alone. It’s what Patrick has done with it.

Rather than hardening into cynicism, he talks openly about stoicism—not as emotional shutdown, but as discernment. About learning what is and isn’t in your control. About how leadership, especially in law enforcement, isn’t about dominance but about tone, restraint, and responsibility.

We also spend time talking about what sustains a life beyond the badge: family, marriage learned the hard way, children who have chosen their own paths of service, and the creative reinvention that followed retirement. Patrick didn’t wait until the uniform was gone to ask who he was without it. He dug the well early—writing, building community, finding meaning beyond the job.

And then, because this is Moped Outlaws, we lighten the mood.

Patrick tells the story of a “high-speed chase” that involved a moped, an empty stomach, borrowed keys, and the quiet agreement among officers to never speak of it again. It’s funny, absurd, and deeply human—a reminder that even in serious lives, ridiculous moments still break through.

This episode doesn’t ask you to take sides.
It asks you to understand.

To see the person inside the uniform.
To recognize the cost of responsibility.
And to consider what wells you might want to dig before you need them.

5 TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE

  1. Life-and-death decisions change the body, not just the mind.
    Fear alters perception. Understanding that matters—for everyone.
  2. Wisdom often comes from restraint, not force.
    Leadership is contagious, especially under pressure.
  3. Preparation is a form of self-respect.
    “Dig the well before you’re thirsty” applies to careers, relationships, and identity.
  4. Service doesn’t end when the uniform comes off.
    Creativity, mentorship, and storytelling can become the next chapter.
  5. Humor is not a lack of seriousness—it’s a survival tool.
    Sometimes the moped chase says as much as the hard stories.

Guest Links — Patrick O’Donnell

Website: https://copsandwriters.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@patrickodonnell7928
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-o-donnell-91b82123a/
Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/copsandwriters
X (Twitter): https://x.com/Patrick03308009
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/odauthor/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@piddyod